phones of parents of deceased members of the armed forces in the united kingdom who were killed in afghanistan and iraq. >> what were they hoping to find in hacking those calls? >> obviously, they were looking for information about families, they were looking for details about millie, did she disappear, was she with a boyfriend somewhere, so they had access. >> the number of people that had to be involved in this exercise has to be big. >> no. 2007, the managing director of "news of the world," now the director of "the wall street journal" went before a committee and said there was one rogue reporter at "news of the world." it's now emerged it was rife throughout the paper that virtually everybody involved was hacking someone's phone for stories, and that's why rupert murdoch took the decision at the weekend to close that newspaper for good. that's a newspaper that's existed for 168 years. no more. >> and the law on this in britain? >> oh, it's a criminal offense. but what's worse is it's now emerged that they had fiscal financial relationships with serving police officers, so, for example, on